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Dell technician just stopped by and swapped the motherboard in my laptop. Now the thunderbolt port is working reliably again. Happy :)

@farhan I have a thunderbolt dock on my desk which has my mouse, keyboard, and two monitors connected to.

@farhan Yup, but all the USB-C docks I tried had various problems. Not sure if they were due to the laptop, or the dock, but eg one plain USB-C dock I tried wouldn't let both monitors run at their native resolutions, and another wasn't providing the correct power to the laptop even though the power supply I had connected worked just fine when connected directly.

@farhan So I bought a Dell TB16 from eBay for very cheap, and while I have read people having all sorts of problems with these, it has worked flawlessly for me so far.

Besides, the problem that Dell came to fix today was with the USB-C connector on my laptop, so even using a plain USB-C dock wouldn't have worked. They done a full motherboard swap!

@farhan I do want to buy a Thunderbolt eGPU though but they are a bit too expensive atm πŸ˜‚

@farhan @mhamzahkhan there exist Macs with USB-C that don't support Thunderbolt (12" Macbook), and Macs with Thunderbolt that don't support USB-C (Macs before Thunderbolt 3)
@feld @mhamzahkhan oh? i thought thunderbolt was a superset of USB-C. I am currently using a Mac and if I had not looked it up I would have assumed there was no difference between my ports.

@farhan @feld Two of my brothers have laptops with both these senarios, one has a MacBook Pro with Thunderbolt, but no USB-C port (ie thunderbolt 2), and my youngest brother has a Latitude 7240 which has a USB-C port, but no thunderbolt support. So they can't "borrow" my desk anymore without disconnecting all the cables first πŸ˜‚

@farhan @mhamzahkhan Thunderbolt 3 reused the USB-C connector and now USB 4 will basically be "Thunderbolt 3 minus things Apple wouldn't license"

My wife's Macbook cannot use my Thunderbolt dock. It's kind of infuriating. Steve would have never allowed them to manufacture a Macbook that has a port identical to others but doesn't completely work.

Thunderbolt 3 (40 gbit) also has much more bandwidth than USB-C/USB 3.2 (20 gbit) which helps for multiple external monitors at full rez/refresh rate.

@tk I don't have any strong feelings either way to be honest. I don't have any Apple products myself, not because I hate them... just always stuck to what I'm comfortable with.

@tk @farhan @mhamzahkhan

Post-Steve era is basically:

πŸ‘Ž more iPhone, but too big (except new SE)

πŸ‘Ž Apple Watch is meh. Smartwatch is not my favorite trend. The idea is too sci-fi. It only works in an environment where you don't constantly get bullshit notifications. I ditched mine.

πŸ‘Ž iPad should have supported mouse/keyboard about 7 years ago

πŸ‘ Airpods these are super great, best invention in a decade

πŸ‘Ž Airpods still use Bluetooth, and drop to mono audio quality if microphone gets activated though

πŸ‘Ž Macbook keyboard fiasco

πŸ‘Ž Neglect of Mac Mini and Mac Pro

πŸ‘ Holy shit, Apple getting back on the innovation train with the new display! Too expensive right now, but it's a start

πŸ‘ Mac servers are back, this is a good start

πŸ‘ Rumor of ARM Macbook coming, this intrigues me. I kind of want an AMD/Ryzen Mac though

πŸ‘Ž Apple Music is "good", but wow Apple takes their time improving services. Like, where the hell are the complementary stations to Beats 1? HELLO???

πŸ‘ Apple TV finally getting its stride on. These ATV+ shows are better produced/written than most shit in Hollywood or on Netflix/Prime

πŸ‘Ž Airplay 2 / Homepod was a disaster. Should have been released sooner, they shouldn't have tried to go to war with Sonos. (they're losing).

πŸ‘Ž Facetime should have grown to support group video chats and stuff by now. It's not where it should be.

πŸ‘Ž Apple could have implemented Snapchat directly into iMessage if they wanted, but they didn't. Because Apple.

πŸ‘ HomeKit kinda open-source friendly now!

πŸ‘ Apple Wallet / Apple Pay / Apple Cash and Apple Credit cards are all good moves

πŸ‘Ž Siri is fucking embarrassing compared to the competition

πŸ‘ Security doing pretty well, except for the whole iCloud Backups loophole



Profits are up, but I think quality overall of the product line is down because of crucial mistakes and neglect of those Apple needs most: the creators, not the consumers.

@feld @farhan @mhamzahkhan

πŸ‘Ž more iPhone, but too big (except new SE)

I still think it’s a surprising turn.

πŸ‘Ž Apple Watch is meh. Smartwatch is not my favorite trend. The idea is too sci-fi. It only works in an environment where you don’t constantly get bullshit notifications. I ditched mine.

Same. I disable my phone’s notifications because I hate them.

πŸ‘ Airpods these are super great, best invention in a decade πŸ‘Ž Airpods still use Bluetooth, and drop to mono audio quality if microphone gets activated though

They’re pretty good, but my experience with Bluetooth in general hasn’t been great, with both Airpods and other devices. Haven’t figured out why.

πŸ‘Ž Neglect of Mac Mini and Mac Pro

Seems like management wants the attention of the average person, who largely only wants laptops and smartphones now.

πŸ‘ Mac servers are back, this is a good start

Isn’t it largely a Mac Pro with some minimal tweaks?

πŸ‘ Rumor of ARM Macbook coming, this intrigues me. I kind of want an AMD/Ryzen Mac though

nVidia graphics would also be great.

πŸ‘Ž Facetime should have grown to support group video chats and stuff by now. It’s not where it should be.

Surprised it hasn’t yet.

πŸ‘ Apple Wallet / Apple Pay / Apple Cash and Apple Credit cards are all good moves

I like how credit cards even support contactless payment now.

@tk @farhan @mhamzahkhan

> nVidia graphics would also be great.

Nvidia and Apple are at odds here. I don't remember the details. Is it Nvidia not supporting Metal? Or something about their drivers doing something naughty? I can't remember. Seems like this relationship is dead dead dead, and honestly... I'm OK with that.

3rd party drivers if you really need Nvidia+CUDA is feasible, but look at what's coming down the pipe for AMD with Navi -- it's going to kill Nvidia like Zen did to Intel.

This has been a long roadmap for AMD: Zen core design was meant to scale *up* to maximum performance after getting the initial design work proved. They've been doing the same with their GPUs. Refreshing to see serious competition again.
@feld @tk @farhan @mhamzahkhan >iPad should have supported mouse/keyboard about 7 years ago

i vividly remember using iPad 4 with a bluetooth keyboard around 2013

>and drop to mono audio quality if microphone gets activated though

oh this one is just too much for my sides
>make airpods
>bluetooth but we actually make it not suck
>implications of proprietary extensions and codecs and protocols and shiet
>actual convenience options
>actually still using A2DP (stereo one-way for music) and HSP (mono two-way for calls) bluetooth modes so it can't access mic in high-quality A2DP mode.
>literally nobody expects them to be compatible with anything at this point
>they still didn't go all the way to deliver best experience
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